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in the past week, i have heard way more people talking about "LOST" and "American Idol" than any other remotely relevant issues concerning health care, environment, political state of the union, or economics.

it freaks me right the fuck out. clearly someone read about bread and circuses.

it actually makes me pretty sick to my stomach, when i think about it for too long. the "cultural impact" section of that wikipedia article does too.

Steph McMillan has it pretty much down here:

if you don't already know here work, scope it here.


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May. 25th, 2006 02:49 pm (UTC)
that is the depressing part
at least the romans were giving out some good wheat bread and olive oil. the country seems to be content with wonder bread and kool-aid.
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a fool's hope - delascabezas - May. 25th, 2006 04:26 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: a fool's hope - (Anonymous) - May. 25th, 2006 11:53 pm (UTC) - Expand
May. 25th, 2006 02:49 pm (UTC)
I being someone who neither watches "LOST" nor "American Idol" agrees.

I dont really see the big deal. No matter.
May. 25th, 2006 04:18 pm (UTC)
the big deal
the big deal is the balance between what you spend your time on. i play video games, and roleplay, but i also read incessantly about world events, and engage a whole lot of perspectives on those issues, rather than just sit and consider the five minutes of fox news watched between commercials to be signifigant mental exercise, suffiecent to offset my wasteful habits.

if we got knocked back to the stone age, i'd have more than enough things to keep me occupied, aside from simply making sure survival happens. there are lots of people where that just plain out is not the case. think of the episode of the simposns where itchy and scratchy gets canned - kids can adapt and pick up habits they abandoned, because they are kids, they haven't lived long enough to pattern "for life". adults have a lot harder time doing that.
Re: the big deal - wangch61 - May. 25th, 2006 04:24 pm (UTC) - Expand
May. 25th, 2006 02:51 pm (UTC)
actual quote from american idol last night:

"over 63 million people voted for tonights winner, which is more than voted in the last presidential election!"

sad. so so sad.
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(no subject) - rhodamine - May. 25th, 2006 04:04 pm (UTC) - Expand
May. 25th, 2006 03:13 pm (UTC)
I emailed the wikipedia entry to the bosses and fellow cube dwellers here.

Everyone in this office watches those shows. It's all they talk about.

I haven't seen either show, so am immune.
May. 25th, 2006 06:49 pm (UTC)
i disagree there
i agree that the shows are pretty bad, but only because i tried them first, to see what people were talking about. immunity doesn't come from isolation, it comes from partial infection and the introduction of antibodies =)
May. 25th, 2006 03:33 pm (UTC)
So I'm a sheep. We all are at some point. I really enjoyed American Idol It was entertaining.

I think the bit about there being more votes for AM IDol than the presidential election was unfair--

you could vote multiple times for American Idol. (i did not, at all)

Bush doesn't have Prince sing during his state of the union.
May. 25th, 2006 06:52 pm (UTC)
but lets say people voted two, even three times, that is still a huge voter turnout. hell, even if they each voted six times! the point is (as your Prince comment points out) is that people will spend time and energy when there is fanfare they enjoy. as i said above, i don't judge people for enjoying the show, but i am apalled at how many people find this an 'important item' to discuss and dissect, when there are so many more relevant and pressing issues out there that get 1/10th of the attention.
Re: true - idram - May. 25th, 2006 11:51 pm (UTC) - Expand
May. 25th, 2006 03:54 pm (UTC)
The important question isn't "Why do people give a fuck about 'American Idol' and 'LOST' [which I personally LIKE]?" It's "Why do I give a fuck that people give a fuck about 'American Idol' and 'LOST'?"

It really grinds my gears when people wank on about how reality television (American Idol), "crappy" music (American Idol) and fictional lite-lit thriller books (The DaVinci Code) are either actively ruining our society or indicative of its impending doom. The mistake that such intellectual elitists (my pet peeve numero uno, by the way) make is the underlying assumption that enjoying mindless entertainment, and enjoying discussions about mindless entertainment, makes you or means that you are mindless. I believe that there are lots of intelligent, informed and well-meaning people in this country that would rather watch "American Idol" than CNN or PBS or the BBC or whatever their detractors watch or claim to watch to make themselves feel smarter. And there are lots of intelligent, informed and well-meaning people who would rather talk about "American Idol" at the water cooler or at lunch or in the bar or wherever than discuss the horrifyingly macabre spectacle that the world seems to be becoming. Most importantly, these people (and I join them here) completely fail to see the relationship between their TV, music and/or reading habits and the state of domestic and world affairs that clearly seems startlingly apparent to snot-nosed college students and other intellectual elitists.

This country and this world has a lot of pretty serious problems, and to examine "American Idol" as either cause or effect is to waste time and energy that would be much better spent on important issues.
May. 25th, 2006 04:13 pm (UTC)
the third question was the one i was asking
i don't care that people care about Lost or AI. If they cared as much about those things as was due their importance. the amount of time and energy spent on an individual's part dealing with the harder shit the world throws at us compared to the amount of shit spent on entertainment, in this country, is dispropotionate in the media.

i'm not saying that LOST creates terrorism, or that American Idol (or any other brain rot) cuts jobs, causes inflation, global warming, or a fuel crisis. what i am saying is that the popularity and prevelance of such entertainment venues eclipses people's knowledge of the aforementioned stiff realities.

lets say the average joe watches two hours of tv a night. if they cut that in half, and spent an hour reading about the issues that the news covers in flashy bits and witty quips, they would quickly realize how fucked up so many things are. that, in many people, creates a sense of outrage, which fuels conversation, and, in some individuals, action.

i by no means equivocate mindless entertainment with midnlessness. i have plenty of wastes of time and space i partake in. i try to balance them with wholesome things. my assertion is that the middle section driving the popularity of most mass-media entertainment has no intention of maintaining that balane, if they even have the notion to be seeking it in the first place.

i'm a foodie. i love fucking rediculous preparations and ingreedients. i also eat mcdonalds on road trips. you can do both - and hats off to people who do both. my issue is how much of the attention is spent in what direction, by what percentage of the population.

i'm definitely not citing TV as a cause or effect. i am citing the mindset of the consuming public, which, for the large part, drives the marketing and media dollars, which, in turn, provides the politicians the tools they need to keep people going in the directions they want them to be going in.

i hope you didn't misread my intial post as "bad tv causes cancer". there was much more intended depth, which is part of the reason i added on the comic.

who knows what lurks in the hearts of men? - dawestruck - May. 25th, 2006 04:45 pm (UTC) - Expand
not claiming omnipotent views here - delascabezas - May. 25th, 2006 07:09 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: not claiming omnipotent views here - fructa - May. 25th, 2006 11:39 pm (UTC) - Expand
shameful but true? - delascabezas - May. 30th, 2006 04:08 pm (UTC) - Expand
missing pointy point? - fructa - May. 30th, 2006 11:43 pm (UTC) - Expand
Re: the third question was the one i was asking - idram - May. 26th, 2006 12:01 am (UTC) - Expand
May. 25th, 2006 04:04 pm (UTC)
wow! psychic twins! OK, not really, but I'm glad I'm not the only one exuding frustration about this thing today.
May. 25th, 2006 07:09 pm (UTC)
i guess you have to be on the outside to see in.
May. 25th, 2006 04:44 pm (UTC)
funny... my myspace URL is panem et circenses.
May. 25th, 2006 07:21 pm (UTC)
scary coincidence
myspace is scarier than everything american idol has come up with combined.
May. 26th, 2006 01:25 pm (UTC)
a modest proposal
i've always been of the opinion that the type to ingest idol to the exclusion of the outside world are exactly the type of people we want to keep -out- of any sort of important process, like voting for the leader of the free world. Here's my thought: in '08, give people a choice: they can either vote for idol, as many times as they like, or they can vote for pres. Granted, the voter turnout will be abysmally lower than it's already shockingly low numbers, but at least those that turn out will be -informed-
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